#mahara-dev Meeting

Meeting started by anitsirk at 08:06:44 UTC (full logs).

Meeting summary

    1. ghada-laptop is Ghada El-Zoghbi from Catalyst-IT Sydney. (ghada, 08:07:22)
    2. anitsirk is Kristina Hoeppner, Catalyst IT, Wellington, NZ (anitsirk, 08:07:24)
    3. tobiasz is Tobias Zeuch, developer at the KIT, Karlsruhe, Germany (tobiasz, 08:07:25)
    4. yuliya is Yuliya Bozhko, developer at TotaraLMS, Wellington NZ (yuliyabozhko, 08:07:45)
    5. robertl_ is Robert Lyon, Catalyst IT, Wellington, NZ (robertl_, 08:07:48)
    6. Tony Butler, Moodle/Mahara developer at Lancaster University UK (tonyjbutler, 08:07:51)
    7. Nigel Cunningham, developer at Catalyst, Melbourne AU (nigelcunningham, 08:09:19)

  2. : Items from last meeting (anitsirk, 08:10:05)
    1. everyone: to comment on the individual items from enhancement list made by the Ljubljana group in the forums / bugs and then talk about them if needed : https://mahara.org/interaction/forum/topic.php?id=6283 (anitsirk, 08:10:12)
    2. a number of items are started and have patches. others need clarification. (anitsirk, 08:15:17)
    3. aarowlaptop is Aaron Wells from Catalyst IT in Wellington NZ (aarowlaptop, 08:24:00)
    4. IDEA: there are potentially two migration paths: reusable notes -> simple non-reusable textboxes and textboxes -> notes. the former would be good to have to get rid of the long list of notes that haven't yet been reused, i.e. copied. those should also not contain any attachments. (anitsirk, 08:25:38)
    5. ACTION: tobiasz tries to implement an automatic conversion of all reusable text-boxes that aren't copied so far to plain ones. (anitsirk, 08:26:16)
    6. aarowlaptop to look into gerrit update (anitsirk, 08:29:20)
    7. ACTION: anitsirk to check if another catalyst dev can upgrade the mahara gerrit since we are upgrading our internal one as well. (anitsirk, 08:31:37)
    8. everyone: to have a look at discussion forum and bug listing https://bugs.launchpad.net/mahara/+bug/1296390 if anything can be added to the discussion (anitsirk, 08:31:54)

  3. Yuliya on documenting undocumented code (anitsirk, 08:32:35)
    1. rkabalin Ruslan Kabalin, Lancaster University, UK (rkabalin, 08:33:35)
    2. IDEA: if someone is fixing things in undocumented method, they should add some PHP Docs (anitsirk, 08:34:21)
    3. review process could be sped up by having some docs available in the code as not everyone will be familiar with everything. (anitsirk, 08:35:44)
    4. AGREED: : when fixing code in an undocumented method, some PHP docs should be added to aid understanding. (anitsirk, 08:36:15)

  4. Tobias on Multirecipient messenger (anitsirk, 08:36:49)
    1. The new plugin for the messenger/user notification system is basically finished. There were just a few questions opening up while doing the reviews/fixing their results (anitsirk, 08:37:15)
    2. IDEA: The inbox blocktype only shows the internal notifications. Is that a huge problem for the patch in general? (anitsirk, 08:38:11)
    3. IDEA: all notifications could be changed to work with the new plugin and than I guess it would make sense to move the inbox in general to the 'module' plugin type (anitsirk, 08:50:46)
    4. feature freeze is in the week of july 28, 2014 (anitsirk, 08:52:20)
    5. tobiasz will attempt to get the inbox work done before the feature freeze (anitsirk, 08:59:40)
    6. https://wiki.mahara.org/index.php/Developer_Area/Accessibility_Checklist (yuliyabozhko, 09:10:42)
    7. new features should pass accessibility testing as accessibility is important in many countries and often required these days. (anitsirk, 09:13:00)
    8. ACTION: robertl_ to write up notes of how to deal with patches that one person started and another continued and then hands back (anitsirk, 09:19:37)
    9. https://mahara.org/interaction/forum/topic.php?id=6355 for reference (anitsirk, 09:20:41)
    10. When a user is deleted, the plugin marks all his messages as deleted by him and complete removes those messages that have been deleted by all other participants. In that discussion, the question arose if user messages should be cleaned up with a cron job, as the help-text tells. (anitsirk, 09:21:12)
    11. We are not that happy with the automatic deletion of user messages, as there is no way to archive/conserve them. The forum posts and view access notifications, on the other hand, only point to information, that can still be found some other place, after the notification has been deleted. (anitsirk, 09:21:25)
    12. IDEA: leave the user messages and delete all the other notifications on a regular basis, that just hold redundant information (anitsirk, 09:29:38)
    13. ACTION: anitsirk to adjust the help text to show the correct number of days that certain messages are deleted. See https://bugs.launchpad.net/mahara/+bug/1334576 (anitsirk, 09:37:49)

  5. Tobias on question plugin (anitsirk, 09:38:13)
    1. https://reviews.mahara.org/#/c/3406/ (yuliyabozhko, 09:42:06)
    2. tobiasz mplemented the question feature that was proposed by Totara and we agreed on providing that to Mahara. It's basically ready for testing, there are a few points still open (more sophisticated search for questions, block type, attachments/urls and maybe logging of editing, after the question was opened) but the basic functionality is complete. (anitsirk, 09:42:32)

  6. Next meeting and chair (anitsirk, 09:45:46)
    1. the 35th Developer Meeting will take place on 14 August at 8:00 UTC: http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=35th+Mahara+Developer+Meeting&iso=20140814T00 (anitsirk, 09:56:59)
    2. http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=35th+Mahara+Developer+Meeting&iso=20140814T00 (anitsirk, 09:57:02)
    3. robertl_ will be the chair. (anitsirk, 09:57:46)

  7. Any other business (anitsirk, 09:57:55)


Meeting ended at 09:59:43 UTC (full logs).

Action items

  1. tobiasz tries to implement an automatic conversion of all reusable text-boxes that aren't copied so far to plain ones.
  2. anitsirk to check if another catalyst dev can upgrade the mahara gerrit since we are upgrading our internal one as well.
  3. robertl_ to write up notes of how to deal with patches that one person started and another continued and then hands back
  4. anitsirk to adjust the help text to show the correct number of days that certain messages are deleted. See https://bugs.launchpad.net/mahara/+bug/1334576


Action items, by person

  1. anitsirk
    1. anitsirk to check if another catalyst dev can upgrade the mahara gerrit since we are upgrading our internal one as well.
    2. anitsirk to adjust the help text to show the correct number of days that certain messages are deleted. See https://bugs.launchpad.net/mahara/+bug/1334576
  2. robertl_
    1. robertl_ to write up notes of how to deal with patches that one person started and another continued and then hands back
  3. tobiasz
    1. tobiasz tries to implement an automatic conversion of all reusable text-boxes that aren't copied so far to plain ones.


People present (lines said)

  1. anitsirk (153)
  2. tobiasz (93)
  3. ghada (76)
  4. yuliyabozhko (67)
  5. robertl_ (22)
  6. aarowlaptop (9)
  7. nigelcunningham (8)
  8. rkabalin (4)
  9. maharameet (3)
  10. tonyjbutler (2)


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