07:56:13 #startmeeting 55th Mahara developer meeting 07:56:13 Meeting started Wed Aug 3 07:56:13 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is aarow_. Information about MeetBot at https://wiki.mahara.org/wiki/Developer_Area/Developer_Meetings/Chair_Duties#Meetbot_commands. 07:56:13 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 07:56:13 The meeting name has been set to '55th_mahara_developer_meeting' 07:56:55 #info sonn is Son Nguyen, Catalyst IT, Wellington, NZ 07:56:56 Good evening everyone. Please introduce yourself with the “#info” command 07:57:05 #info robertl_ is Robert Lyon, Catalyst in Wellington, New Zealand 07:57:06 #info aarow_ is Aaron Wells at Catalyst IT in Wellington, NZ 07:57:07 #info ghada_l is Ghada El-Zoghbi from Catalyst IT, Sydney, Australia 07:57:25 anyone else here? :) 07:58:06 I guess not. Okay, let’s get started. Not a lot on the agenda for this meeting. 07:58:06 #info antonella is Antonella De Chiara from France 07:58:21 Oh, hi Antonella! 07:58:43 hello ^_^ 07:58:46 Hi Antonella 07:58:49 First, topics from previous meetings 07:59:08 #topic From previous meeting: aaronw_ and robertl_ to discuss the details of how to get a build branch for Mahara releases going to support those who can't use composer. 07:59:20 I've not had a chance to look into the composer issue as I've been on holidays and been busy with doing some smart evidence work 07:59:36 And I haven’t done much on it yet either 07:59:55 Okay, so I’ll table that one for next time. I think we mostly spec’ed it out pretty good at the last meeting 08:00:05 but I agree it needs to be done for the simplesamlphp stuff at the very least 08:00:15 yes 08:00:34 #action robertl_ and aaronw_ haven’t made progress on it yet 08:00:41 next topic 08:01:05 #topic From previous meeting: anitsirk to update the "How to contribute" wiki section that new features should have the topic set and include "(feature)". 08:01:24 #info Kristina marked this “done”: https://wiki.mahara.org/wiki/Developer_Area/Contributing_Code#Submitting_commits_for_review 08:01:31 #info sl-yairspi is Yair Spielmann, Moodle and Mahara developer, Synergy Learning, Belfast, NI. 08:01:42 hi sl-yairspi 08:01:43 Hi sl-yairspi! 08:01:48 Hi 08:01:50 hi ! 08:01:53 Hi 08:02:04 So, those were the only items specified on the agenda for this meeting. 08:02:20 I guess new topics are in order 08:02:31 Actually next is supposed to be the next meeting and chair 08:02:38 :) 08:02:47 Anyone want to volunteer to chair the next meeting? 08:02:54 well this will be a quick meeting :) 08:02:54 Or maybe we should schedule it first 08:02:58 I can do it 08:03:04 for the first time 08:03:17 sold to sonn, thanks 08:03:33 this was a short meeting... 08:03:35 Oh, good 08:03:41 yes it is 08:03:46 How about Wed September 7 for the next one? 08:03:51 0800 UTC again? 08:04:03 ok !! 08:04:12 fine for me 08:04:19 sounds good 08:04:21 let me see what that will be sydney time 08:04:32 #topic Next meeting and chair 08:04:49 should be the same as this one, unless daylight saving kicks in 08:05:11 let me get the world time dealie for this... 08:05:41 http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=20160907T08&p1=1440 08:05:50 #agreed sonn volunteered to chair 08:06:10 ghada: That’ll be 6pm in Sydney 08:06:24 yep, that works for me. 08:06:42 #agreed Wed 7 Sept, 0800 UTC for the next meeting: http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=20160907T08&p1=1440 08:06:46 okay, last topic 08:06:55 #topic: Any other business? 08:07:04 Anyone have anything else they want to discuss? 08:07:13 Minor security releases next week 08:07:19 It isn't long after the last minor release but a few secuirty bugs have surfaced and so we plan to do another release early next week - so if you know of things that need fixing get them in now :) 08:07:22 yeah 08:07:43 #info We’re planning to do another security release early next week 08:08:13 Any others? 08:08:19 behat tests? 08:08:28 i'm really struggling with the instructions in the wiki 08:08:44 Oh, which part? 08:08:45 can someone do a step by step instructions on how to set them up? 08:08:51 ghada, did you get the updated Firefox? 08:09:38 this page? https://wiki.mahara.org/wiki/Testing/Behat_Testing/Setup 08:10:52 I have a docker image for behat testing 08:11:14 I will add it to wiki page 08:11:23 You still there, ghada? 08:12:16 yes, but still having a lot of issues 08:12:16 i tried to update the wiki as I went along with issues i found 08:12:17 for example, permissions were a big thing 08:12:17 do you guys run them on a headless vm? 08:12:17 if i could get my environment set up, i'd like to introduce behat tests to the patches i submit 08:12:18 maybe you can document that. i don't mind using docker 08:12:18 just anything that works. 08:12:19 hi aaorw_: yes... 08:12:51 Oh, maybe I was having a network hiccup, I just now saw all your messages at once 08:13:05 no, i think it was me. 08:13:09 I’ve also got some code I was working on to make jenkins run the tests in a Docker image 08:13:25 I should probably make that a bit more portable, and then we could use it for this 08:13:37 I’ll take a look at the wiki tomorrow and see if I can straighten that page out 08:13:47 #action aarow_ to update the Behat Testing setup page 08:13:51 thank you aarow_ and sonn 08:14:42 that's all i had. 08:15:28 okay, any other topics? :) 08:15:46 SmartEvidence 08:15:46 Work is in progress to get more of the SmartEvidence stuff fleshed out - there are some patches in reviews 08:15:53 https://reviews.mahara.org/#/q/status:open+project:mahara+branch:master+topic:%22Smart+evidence%22 08:15:58 Feel free to test them - but note it is still a work in progress - though I guess I'll need to write some test instructions :) 08:16:13 I guess I should do that tomorrow 08:16:14 #topic: SmartEvidence has a bunch of patches in review: https://reviews.mahara.org/#/q/status:open+project:mahara+branch:master+topic:%22Smart+evidence%22 08:16:29 #info Still in WIP though 08:17:05 It adds a evidence matrix page to a collection that uses smart evidence 08:18:12 so that collection shows up in the matrix - is that what you mean? 08:19:14 it adds a 'page' to a collection that displays all the pages on it horizontally and the competencies vertically 08:20:13 ah, so the matrix is made up of the pages in the collection 08:20:52 yep - it's a big table with first row the page titles and the first column the competencies 08:21:07 it'll be great to get smartevidence into mahara! 08:21:16 yep, finally 08:21:31 Any other topics? 08:21:38 nope 08:22:31 do we have any feature freeze like stuff coming up? 08:22:34 none from me 08:22:46 * robertl_ sees what the timeline looks like 08:22:51 We are now, in fact, in feature freeze 08:23:45 for the 16.10 release 08:23:59 so release candidate 1 should be out at the end of this month 08:24:17 #topic: Feature freeze for 16.10 is on 08:24:35 wow that has come up quick 08:24:38 #topic 16.10rc1 should be out at the end of this month 08:24:41 yeah, it always does 08:24:43 :) 08:25:05 Okay, If no one has any other topics… 08:25:14 none from me 08:25:54 Then I declare this meeting closed 08:25:57 #endmeeting