08:03:36 #startmeeting 08:03:36 Meeting started Thu Jan 22 08:03:36 2015 UTC. The chair is robertl_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 08:03:36 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 08:03:42 #info ghada-l is Ghada El-Zoghbi at Catalyst IT, Sydney 08:03:47 #info sonn is Son Nguyen, Catalyst IT, Wellington, NZ 08:03:51 #info anitsirk is Kristina Hoeppner, Catalyst IT, Wellington, NZ 08:03:59 #info robertl_ is Robert Lyon, Catalyst IT, Wellington, NZ 08:04:03 #info aarowlaptop, Aaron Wells of Catalyst IT, Wellington NZ 08:04:08 #info yuliya is Yuliya Bozhko from Totara Learning Solutions, Wellington, NZ 08:04:14 #info nigelc1 is Nigel Cunningham, Catalyst IT, Melbourne, Australia 08:04:45 is that all? 08:04:51 seems like it 08:04:55 at least for the moment 08:04:55 ok,moving on 08:04:59 #topic Items from last meeting 08:05:18 #info aarowlaptop to investigate Gumby and Bootstrap a bit to make a final decision which CSS framework to choose. 08:05:43 We went with Bootstrap. :) 08:05:56 aren't there patches in review already? 08:05:57 :) 08:06:02 And the front-end development team at Catalyst has started working on porting the themes to Bootstrap 08:06:03 would you like to explain why? 08:06:03 yep 08:06:08 #info the CSS framework of choice is Bootstrap, the SASS version 08:06:41 They're both pretty equivalent, but Bootstrap seems to have better community support behind it 08:07:03 sounds good - community support is always useful 08:07:10 yuliyabozhko: i don't think so. they are working through a lot of things together and then submit when a bit more finalized. 08:07:34 Pat and Naomi have pushed some patches into gerrit 08:07:41 it's looking nice already with the changes they have made :-) 08:07:54 oh sorry. missed them 08:07:57 https://reviews.mahara.org/#/q/status:open+project:mahara+branch:master+topic:bootstrap,n,z 08:07:58 :) 08:08:14 I haven't looked yet 08:08:41 nor I, will have to look at them next week 08:09:09 on next one 08:09:16 #info robertl to make forum post in the open discussion forum about the copy button on pages to see if people have other / additional ideas that should be kept in mind. 08:09:31 From the forum discussion 08:09:31 https://mahara.org/interaction/forum/topic.php?id=6630&offset=0 08:09:40 we decided to go with making a copy button be on the top right next to the 'edit this page' button and change the text of the edit button so we end up with [edit] [copy] 08:09:54 The copy button only to show if one can copy a page and the copying of the page will go to user's portfolio. 08:09:55 #info we decided to go with making a copy button be on the top right next to the 'edit this page' button and change the text of the edit button so we end up with [edit] [copy] 08:09:55 If page is part of a collection it will allow one to choose, via dialog, which to copy. 08:10:20 #info The copy button only to show if one can copy a page and the copying of the page will go to user's portfolio. 08:10:27 #info If page is part of a collection it will allow one to choose, via dialog, which to copy. 08:10:45 I should hopefully have something up in gerrit for review by late tomorrow 08:10:56 I didn't participate in the discussion, but it sounds good :) 08:11:04 #idea there were great ideas mentioned for further enhancements that we'll definitely keep stashed. 08:11:52 #idea there was talk of being able to pick which pages from a collection rather than 1 vs all 08:12:50 hello brobeur 08:12:57 hello 08:13:01 #idea allow setting of copy destination - eg group/institution 08:14:15 #idea i also liked the idea to make copying easier than having to do it just on the share page. 08:14:39 ok next topic 08:14:48 #topic feature freeze 08:15:05 anitsirk, you topic I beieve 08:15:14 brobeur: it would be great if you introduced yourself to the group by putting "#info" at the beginning of the line. :-) 08:15:14 s/you/your 08:15:20 yep. just a sec. 08:15:38 #info Feature freeze for 15.04 is in the first week of February 08:16:05 thus, if you are working on any features, they would need to be submitted by then in order to be taken into consideration. 08:16:31 the sooner you get them into review, the better. :-) 08:17:11 I guess we should increase reviewing effort too? 08:17:13 i think right now i'm talking only to catalyst people and yuliyabozhko so i think that's enough info. 08:17:27 yuliyabozhko: yes. reviewing would be great. 08:17:48 cool. I am trying to spare some time during the day for that :) 08:17:49 Ghada and I are working on support for 'SmartEvidence' and will hopefully be submitting some preliminary work in that area. 08:17:54 there are lots of patches in. and also the first behat tests from the academy students :-) 08:17:58 now that academy is over I should have more reviewing time available for the bigger patches 08:18:05 awesome 08:18:32 yeah, we need to work out why we keep overwriting each other's work when we submit a patch!! 08:18:41 nigelc1: great. i also need to set aside time for that and other patches now to give you feedback. it's been a full few weeks. 08:18:44 :-( 08:18:49 ghada: what? 08:18:58 i thought you split up your patches 08:19:00 do the patches have the same gerrit id in the commit messages? 08:19:16 we did split them. 08:19:21 We tried. But something strange was happening. Will look again soon. 08:19:22 i'm not sure about the gerritid. 08:19:39 you mean change-id? 08:19:47 yes 08:19:49 the changeid is different. 08:19:51 yep - that the one - I couldn't remember name 08:20:13 ghada's patch is https://reviews.mahara.org/4123 08:20:40 yeah, so you'll see that patch 10 is Nigel's 08:20:44 and mine is 11 08:20:52 with completely different files and changeid. 08:21:11 and different bug number. 08:21:21 i'm sure it's something weird we've done. 08:21:45 the change ids look the same to me 08:22:03 https://reviews.mahara.org/#/c/4123/10..11//COMMIT_MSG 08:22:06 They were at one point, but in the last couple of commits? 08:22:06 bug number doesn't matter here. i wonder if it was something when you split the patches and they contained the first commit message when it was pushed as one 08:22:38 Mmm. They are on that patch. 08:22:44 my link was the diff between patch 10 and 11 08:22:53 oh yeah... 08:23:09 I'll try again later. 08:23:57 And make sure the change id is different :) 08:24:08 me too... 08:24:23 #info patch collision can happen when change-ids are same for different patches 08:24:52 We did try to make them different... shrug 08:25:18 ok next topic I guess will be next meeting/chair unless someone has a topic not listed in agenda 08:25:41 I have nothing :) 08:25:54 date first? 08:25:58 robertl_: I have one 08:26:05 I can check if I can chair then ;) 08:26:06 but that can be for any other business 08:26:08 anitsirk, go for it 08:26:13 ah ok 08:26:27 #topic next meeting date and chair 08:26:51 Feb 26th? 08:26:55 or is it too late? 08:27:19 when is the next release? 08:27:23 april 08:27:30 ah, right 08:27:32 that week is ui freeze 08:27:35 so spot on :-) 08:27:40 cool 08:27:41 https://wiki.mahara.org/index.php/6MonthlyCycle 08:27:47 or should we push it out a little bit to allow for more stuff to chat about to accumulate? 08:28:08 or do people prefer the quicker meetings? 08:28:13 our meetings do go a bit faster if we don't have so much ;-) 08:28:14 I should be around until April :D 08:28:25 anitsirk: agree 08:28:27 I prefer quicker meetings :) 08:28:32 me too :) 08:28:39 yes. 08:29:08 so Feb 26? 08:29:11 ok then, either feb 26th, or Mar 5th sound good to me 08:29:19 either is ok for me 08:29:36 either is fine for me 08:29:50 ok lets got with the first one then 08:29:58 feb 26th it is 08:30:05 great. 08:30:15 same time again? 08:30:32 Feb 26 is fine for me 08:30:33 yeah, works fine with everyone so far 08:30:41 yep 08:30:41 yes, it's a good time. 08:30:46 k 08:31:00 would it be again at this time like http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=41st+Mahara+Developer+Meeting&iso=20150226T08 08:31:35 #info The next mahara dev meeting will take place on 26 Feb 2015 at 8:00 UTC 08:31:54 http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=41st+Mahara+Developer+Meeting&iso=20150226T08 08:32:16 so that leaves the chair position to fill 08:32:27 who would like to run the meeting? 08:32:32 I can do 08:32:48 yay yuliyabozhko 08:33:01 :) 08:33:15 #info yuliyabozhko will chair the 41st Mahara dev meeting on 26 Feb 2015 08:33:23 thanks yuliyabozhko 08:33:34 np ;) 08:33:38 leaving us with 08:33:48 drum roll.... 08:33:49 #topic Any other business 08:34:05 anitsirk, you are up 08:34:08 anybody else have something? 08:34:16 no.. go for it. 08:34:16 nope 08:34:30 #info Mahara Hui will take place for the second time this year. This time, 8-10 April 2015 in Auckland. 08:34:48 #info Please submit your awesome proposal and attend. :-) 08:34:54 https://maharahui.org.nz/ 08:35:25 that's it 08:35:50 cool 08:35:55 anyone else? 08:36:06 last chance ... 08:36:07 not me 08:36:17 nope 08:36:18 #endmeeting