20:02:29 #startmeeting 20:02:29 Meeting started Tue Feb 26 20:02:29 2013 UTC. The chair is anzeljg. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 20:02:29 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 20:02:31 Welcome to the 24th Mahara Developer Meeting. Please state your name and location by starting a line with #info. When you have a long statement broken up over several lines, please put .. on a separate line when you are done. 20:02:39 #info anzeljg is Gregor Anželj, developer and translator, Ljubljana, Slovenia 20:02:44 #info aquaman is Hugh Davenport 20:03:08 #info rkabalin_ is Ruslan Kabalin, Lancaster University, Lancaster, UK 20:03:20 #info anitsirk is Kristina Hoeppner, Catalyst IT, Wellington, NZ 20:04:02 not that many people ) 20:04:05 anybody else? 20:04:37 #topic Items from last meeting 20:04:52 #info anzeljg will create a wiki page under "Specifications in development" for his enhancement suggestions for the resume and start a forum topic to discuss these. 20:05:03 So I'll chair and start... 20:05:29 Created wiki page, which can be accessed via #link https://wiki.mahara.org/index.php/Developer_Area/Specifications_in_Development/Resume_enhancements 20:05:47 and forum topic, accessible via #link https://mahara.org/interaction/forum/topic.php?id=5245 20:06:11 Dajan replied to forum topic and he agrees with proposed changes. 20:06:12 .. 20:07:24 any questions, comments... 20:07:57 hi sonn 20:08:16 please use info to introduce yourself 20:08:21 Hi 20:08:43 #info sonn, Son Nguyen, Catalyst IT NZ 20:09:13 The address fromat idea is good 20:09:38 We're discussing Resume enhancements, although I'm getting the felling that I0m talking with myself :) 20:10:05 :) 20:10:19 rkabalin: it's taken from Europass AddressFormat xml/xls file... 20:10:26 I see 20:11:34 so the import/export from/to Europass (and/or other systmes) can be as compatible as possible... 20:12:14 What is Europass Address format? 20:13:12 sonn2, please see #link http://europass.cedefop.europa.eu/xml/resources/EuropassAddressFormats_V1.0.xsd 20:13:29 thank anzeljg 20:14:00 basically it serves for different display formats of addresses throughout European countries 20:14:04 hey jimcrib 20:14:10 Addresses are formatted differently... 20:14:17 jimcrib hi 20:14:25 morning 20:14:55 jimcrib could you info introduce yourself 20:15:36 Is there anything else to discuss or shall we move forward? 20:16:38 I have one 20:16:45 ok 20:17:17 I would replace the file browser by elfinder 20:17:38 as it has many bugs 20:17:56 sonn2 can we discuss that a bit later... 20:18:02 ok 20:18:04 we have items from last meeting? 20:18:11 ok 20:18:19 so the last item from previous meeting was: 20:18:23 #info VolkerJSchmidt will contact Eleni Kargioti about Leap2A and Europass 20:22:03 is that all? 20:22:43 IRC stopped responding... 20:22:59 anzeljg_: sorry. gotta go. 20:23:28 can anyone tell me, if you got my messages, which I got from Eleni? 20:23:33 anitsirk bye. 20:23:44 yes 20:23:48 I got it 20:23:54 everything? 20:23:59 just one 20:24:12 ok. So I'll repost that... 20:24:28 "At the end of 2012, we released the new version of Europass XML Schema (v3.0), which radically revamps the previous XML schema. 20:24:38 As you may be already aware, the main purpose of version 3.0 was to define an XML structure for the portfolio of the learner and serve as a portable repository of information relevant to the learner's career and development. 20:24:57 At this point we do not plan a major revision to the Europass CV/ESP implementation. However we are aware of the impact of Leap2A and therefore will definitely study it when we will be extending our implementation. 20:25:06 Unfortunately I cannot tell you at this point a specific time schedule, as this is something that needs to be analysed and agreed with Cedefop, the owner of Europass. 20:25:15 Nevertheless, I believe that interoperability between Europass CV/ESP and Leap2A could be achieved even at this point, by defining the business and technical details on how a Leap2A profile can be converted to a Europass CV/ESP profile and vice versa. 20:25:23 We have done something similar in the past in order to allow the seamless conversion between HR-XML and Europass-XML profiles. 20:25:33 If we decide to support such a feature our company can cooperate with technical staff from Mahara or Leap2A in order to define the conversion scenaria, the steps and technical resources (e.g. XSLT)." 20:25:41 That was her answer... 20:25:42 .. 20:28:05 I guess we will not deal with that right now, or are there any ideas, comments? 20:28:47 I think we should wait 20:29:45 #idea Wait for interoperability between Leap2A and Europass formats, but keep that in mind 20:30:06 If ekly is not here than sonn2 can continue... 20:30:28 So we move to next step>? 20:30:32 yep 20:31:16 sonn2 you were saying that you want to replace... (sorry forgot that) 20:31:18 When debugging Mahara, I find file browser is a bit odd and has many bugs 20:31:47 I'd use another 3rd party solution: elfinder 20:32:00 #topic Replace Mahara file browser with elfinder 20:32:01 http://elfinder.org/ 20:32:40 sonn2: will that open in a separate pop-up? 20:32:40 It is a complete file manager using jquery 20:32:57 looks interesing 20:33:00 we can easily customize it for mahara use 20:33:01 looks cool 20:33:25 agree, look nice and cool 20:33:31 also easy to integrate with our current TinyMCE 20:34:18 #link http://elfinder.org/ 20:34:24 and would save doing a security audit on the current filebrowser :P 20:34:25 to have the link also in minutes... 20:34:29 which probably has issues 20:34:34 sure 20:35:23 I guess now is the time that I should ask if we agree with that? 20:35:27 so do we agree? 20:35:40 #agree 20:35:46 #agree 20:36:03 It needs to do security investigation 20:36:16 before using it 20:37:16 sonn2: You'll do it, right? 20:37:56 I will put it in the development specification 20:38:11 and will try to do it when possible 20:38:57 #action sonn2 will create development specification and security investigation for replacing file browser with elfinder 20:38:58 might also worth checking if there any other good open filebrowsers in the internet 20:39:00 will need aquaman's help about security issue 20:39:22 I did 20:39:39 what is the file browser that Moodle uses? 20:39:43 and IMO, elfinder is the best 20:40:05 I have no idea 20:40:17 aquaman may know 20:40:18 anyway, I like elfinder... 20:40:29 It is a custom browser there AFAIK 20:40:48 Written by Davo Smith I think 20:41:15 aquaman: will you help sonn2 with security issue? 20:41:34 ohai 20:41:56 #action aquaman will help sonn2 with security issue 20:42:12 https://moodle.org/plugins/view.php?plugin=block_repo_filemanager 20:42:16 should have time one weekend 20:42:28 :) 20:42:32 :) 20:43:03 Is there anything else on that matter? 20:43:29 rkabalin_: is the plugin you want? 20:44:12 I think that is all for the moment 20:44:21 OK 20:44:58 Is elky here or any of you guys knows anything about Mahara 1.7 release progress 20:45:50 anitsirk knows it better than me :) 20:46:18 anitsirk would you like to update us all? 20:46:37 still in a meeting. sorry 20:47:00 ok. so we'll skip that for now and maybe return to that later? 20:47:06 yes 20:47:21 #topic Next meeting and chair 20:47:32 We usually wanted to have a meeting every 5-6 weeks. That would be the 16th of April at 8 p.m. NZDT. That would be 9 a.m. UK and 10 a.m. Central Europe. 20:47:46 That is my suggestion... 20:48:46 agreed 20:48:54 agreed 20:49:58 anybody else? aquaman? anitsirk? 20:51:12 #info The 25th Mahara Developer Meeting will be held on the 16th of April at 8 p.m. NZDT. That will be 9 a.m. UK and 10 a.m. Central Europe. #link http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=25th+Mahara+Developer+Meeting&iso=20130416T08 20:51:29 who would like to chair it? 20:51:57 I can 20:52:08 thank rkabalin_ 20:52:17 np 20:52:20 )) 20:52:29 thanx 20:52:46 I would be but I may be late :) 20:52:52 #info rkabalin will chair next, 25th Mahara Developer Meeting 20:53:14 #topic Any other business 20:53:25 none for me 20:53:42 anybody else? 20:53:45 thanks anzeljg_, none for me either 20:53:58 I have a question though... 20:54:05 yes 20:54:10 go ahead 20:54:31 I found that on Mahara wiki... What's with the View (noe Page) Templates? 20:54:34 #link https://wiki.mahara.org/index.php/Developer_Area/HowToWriteAViewTemplate 20:54:43 noe = now 20:54:57 anybody knows? 20:54:59 .. 20:55:52 I did not find what you mentioned 20:57:34 I have no idea 20:57:44 ok. From wiki main index, click "Developer Area", than scroll down to "Finding your way around" section and click "How to write a view template"... 20:57:46 Brett written it originally, I did not even know about that functionality 20:57:59 Is it implemented or not... 20:58:18 I got the impression that it's not fully impemented. Would be nice though... 21:01:07 anzeljg_: did you try to write a view template? 21:01:19 no I didn't 21:01:24 ok 21:01:26 will try that 21:01:39 It sounds interesting 21:01:45 indeed 21:01:51 I will try one day 21:02:12 Still no sign of elky or anitsirk? 21:02:30 no 21:02:44 Does anybody else know about Mahara 1.7 release progress? 21:03:29 Are we past the feature freeze date? 21:03:31 I guess elky will update it later on wiki 21:03:45 or in IRC channel 21:03:46 ok 21:03:55 Any other AOB? 21:04:05 otherwise I'll end the meeting 21:04:17 Anyone hear about Hiphop-php? 21:04:26 yeap 21:04:53 I have attended the Multicore World conference last week 21:05:16 It would be good to speed up Mahara 21:05:22 I did some work with implementing intels TBB into it 21:05:36 awesome 21:06:26 It is still lack some extensions for mahara 21:06:52 yeap plus it doesn't allow eval 21:07:03 I have tried to run mahara on Hiphop VM 21:07:32 after disabling some functions 21:07:45 It is very promissing 21:07:49 The vm is make better than the compiler 21:08:04 s/make/much/ 21:08:05 It ran twice faster 21:08:23 It is worth to try 21:09:01 ok 21:09:18 that's all of me 21:09:57 anitsirk: Do you have the time now and want to talk about Mahara 1.7 release progress? 21:11:11 anzeljg_: sorry. still in meetings. 21:11:21 ok 21:11:22 anybody else, anything else? 21:12:50 #endmeeting 21:13:08 bye anzeljg_ 21:13:14 seems that now I can't end meeting 21:13:30 whoops, I had the wrong time down on my calendar. I just got here. 21:13:30 anitsirk: could you end the meeting 21:14:45 aarow, sorry 21:15:36 since my IRC client stried on me previously, I'm now unable to end meeting... 21:15:50 can anybody do that instead of me? 21:16:27 thanks anzeljg_ 21:16:34 #endmeeting 21:16:59 rkabalin: guess you can't do that also... 21:17:25 dobedobedoh might be able, but he is not here )) 21:17:42 anitsirk is having ops privileges I guess... 21:18:42 ah, I see you began meeing being anzeljg 21:18:49 yep 21:18:50 and now you are anzeljg_ 21:18:57 yep again 21:19:10 any chance you can close that session 21:19:18 can i change my nick back to anzeljg 21:19:34 and connect again using original nick? 21:19:50 #endmeeting 21:20:06 anzeljg_ try to leave and connect again 21:20:15 ok. will try 21:21:02 hello anzeljg 21:21:02 finally... 21:21:08 #endmeeting