07:37:06 <aquaphone> #startmeeting 07:37:06 <maharameet> Meeting started Wed Oct 17 07:37:06 2012 UTC. The chair is aquaphone. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 07:37:06 <maharameet> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 07:37:36 <anitsirk> #info anitsirk is Kristina Hoeppner at Catalyst IT in Wellington, NZ 07:37:39 <aquaphone> Name yourselves 07:38:08 <elky> #info elky is melissa draper, catalyst IT, nz 07:38:12 <aquaphone> #info aquaphone is Hugh Davenport Catalyst IT 07:38:20 <anzeljg> #info anzeljg is Gregor Anželj, Gimnazija Bežigrad, Ljubljana, Slovenia 07:38:24 <aquaphone> #topic Items from last meetings 07:39:41 <anitsirk> #info anzeljg (with help from someone at Catalyst) will document PluralForms and their usage on the wiki 07:39:49 <aquaphone> #item anzeljg (with help from someone at Catalyst) will document PluralForms and their usage on the wiki 07:39:49 <anzeljg> Haven't done that yet, been busy translating Mahara 1.6 into Slovenian ;) 07:39:57 <anzeljg> Looked at the topic that richardm started. It's a good start, but will need improvements 07:40:03 <anitsirk> #info richardm had actually documented plural forms already at https://wiki.mahara.org/index.php/Language_Packs/Plural_forms 07:40:37 <anzeljg> improvements or extensions... 07:40:37 <anitsirk> so the basics are there and can be expanded on. 07:40:49 <anzeljg> anitsirk: agree 07:41:06 <aquaphone> Iarenaza is not here for second item 07:41:11 <aquaphone> So 07:41:11 <anitsirk> i have his update 07:41:36 <anitsirk> iarenaza apologizes for not being here. he talked to laurent and that's what laurent said: 07:41:41 <anitsirk> "I hoped I could be able to port the plugin last spring - between two projects - but unfortunately it didn't happen. 07:41:41 * anzeljg has to go and will return in 15 minutes 07:41:41 <anitsirk> The goal is still to integrate the plugin but it will have to wait a bit. We have some Mahara developments that will take place in the next few months, which are currently in the preparation stage. This will be an opportunity to integrate the plugin. Otherwise I should have a bit of time when we do the next update, maybe this spring. 07:41:42 <anitsirk> One aspect is the need to adapt the plugin to work with the new filter system, that will take a little more time than to do a simple port. In any case I've had a look at the docs to submit a change in the core. I've already done most of the operations but I find the process a bit cumbersome, especially if it is for ad-hoc developments. 07:41:43 <anitsirk> In any case don't hesitate to contact me (again) if you need any info - if I do not answer your mail is probably because it has disappeared into the bowels of my mailbox" 07:42:50 <anitsirk> #info laurent is still planning on implementing oembed into core, but has other priorities at the moment. it needs a big more work to work with the new filtering system. 07:42:52 <aquaphone> Excellent 07:43:26 <anitsirk> Just a clarification as I couldn't be here for the last two dev meetings. There was a discussion around the safeiframe feature, oembed and embedl.ly. Embed.ly is a plugin that anyone can install on their Mahara instance (no matter whether big or small), but it would not go into core as it could cause problems down the track if APIs etc. change (see Google Apps issues). It's not just for big installations. OEmbed is different as it is built on open 07:43:26 <anitsirk> standards and does not rely on a third-party server to operate to show embedded media files (as far as I understand it). That's why OEmbed is proposed for core, but not Embed.ly. 07:43:49 <anitsirk> .. 07:44:08 <aquaphone> That all ge passed on? 07:44:20 <aquaphone> Thats all of action items 07:44:38 <anitsirk> yep 07:44:43 <aquaphone> #topic mahara 1.6 release 07:44:49 <aquaphone> Anitsirk 07:45:01 <anitsirk> Well, since it's now just the three of us, not much to talk about the release. ;-) 07:45:13 <elky> Well, it'd be in the logs for the others 07:45:14 <aquaphone> Thought so: -) 07:45:33 <anitsirk> #info RC2 is out and there is one last thing (keep fingers crossed) that needs fixing and then we can release 1.6. 07:45:56 <anitsirk> elky: do you want to name the date? 07:46:37 <elky> aquaphone, have you identified the issue yet? 07:46:54 <aquaphone> Haven't fixed but have idea 07:47:02 <elky> estimate? 07:47:28 <aquaphone> Tomorrow hopefully 07:47:29 * anzeljg is back... 07:47:45 <anitsirk> that was a quick 15 minutes, anzeljg :-) 07:47:48 <anitsirk> hi rkabalin 07:47:52 <aquaphone> Hi rkabalin 07:47:53 <elky> anitsirk, we might be able to get it out on Friday, but if not, it'll go out on Tuesday 07:48:02 <rkabalin> #info Ruslan Kabalin - Lancaster University, UK 07:48:06 <rkabalin> hello 07:48:27 <elky> hi rkabalin. we're discussing the eta for 1.6 :) 07:48:45 <rkabalin> ok 07:48:49 <anzeljg> reading through... a question: is 1.6 release set to tomorrow? 07:49:01 <elky> anzeljg, Friday or Tuesday 07:49:06 <anitsirk> #info one last issue to fix for mahara 1.6 and release will be made friday, 19 October 2012 or Tuesday 23 October 2012 07:49:22 <anzeljg> Tuestad, 23rd? 07:49:29 <elky> Depending on the resolution of an annoying clash of responsive design and tinymce 07:49:30 <anzeljg> Tuesday i mean 07:49:46 <elky> anzeljg, yes 07:49:59 <elky> NZ has a public holiday on monday 07:50:01 <anzeljg> It would be great since I'm presenting Mahara and new features on Thursday, 25th... 07:50:13 <anitsirk> anzeljg: great. 07:50:18 <elky> excellent :) 07:50:44 <anitsirk> you could already present them on the RC as there aren't going to be any new features. but of course saying that 1.6 is out is much better. 07:51:02 <aquaphone> Right that all for release discussions? Fri or tues 07:51:07 <elky> I will cry if it doesn't go out on Tuesday :) 07:51:29 <anzeljg> me too 07:51:32 <elky> aquaphone, yes, did i mention the point releases yet? 07:52:14 <elky> anitsirk, i accidentally skipped 1.5.5 and typed 1.5.6 into the release script instead :( 07:52:20 <aquaphone> Go for it 07:52:21 <anitsirk> that was it from me for the 1.6 release 07:52:26 <elky> please to not hurt me 07:52:55 <anitsirk> did you also skip it consistently for 1.4? 07:53:04 <anitsirk> ;-) 07:53:08 <elky> no, 1.4.6 was done already by that point 07:53:53 <elky> it was probably because simply arrowed up and changed a 4 to a 5 that it happened 07:53:57 <anitsirk> what's done is done. 07:54:12 <elky> aquaphone, wants to do some aggressive maintenance on the release script too 07:54:26 <elky> because it's not happy with gerrit permissions and a few other annoying things 07:54:59 <anitsirk> shall we move on? 07:55:06 <aquaphone> #topic Next meeting and Chair 07:55:09 <elky> #info point releases 1.4.6 and 1.5.6 went out today (1.4.5 and 1.5.4 went out last week) 07:55:21 <elky> oh, oops sorry 07:56:14 <elky> um. do we have a uk/eu person volunteering to chair? 07:56:24 <rkabalin> I can do that 07:56:27 <elky> yay! 07:56:41 <elky> and when's good for you? 07:57:07 <rkabalin> November 21st? 07:57:46 <rkabalin> at 20:00 UTC 07:58:10 <elky> suits me. anitsirk you don't have any travelling planned for then, do you? 07:58:19 <aquaphone> Thanks rkabalin 07:58:20 <rkabalin> does that sound good for everyone, I do not have a particular date preference to be honest 07:58:27 <anzeljg> fine by me 07:58:40 <aquaphone> Can you provide a #link 07:59:12 <anitsirk> fine by me 07:59:26 <anitsirk> http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=20121121T20 07:59:58 <rkabalin> thanks anitsirk, I always stuggle to find a right menu item there to generate a link 08:00:22 <anitsirk> rkabalin: np 08:00:24 <elky> rkabalin, they have changed it recently too, it's all different 08:00:28 <aquaphone> #link http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=20121121T20 08:01:05 <aquaphone> Any objections 08:01:10 <anitsirk> The prettier link is 08:01:11 <anitsirk> http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=22nd+Mahara+Developer+Meeting&iso=20121121T20 08:01:19 <anitsirk> that has a title now :-) 08:01:36 <aquaphone> Anitsirk can you #link it? 08:01:51 <anitsirk> it should be linked because the link starts the line 08:02:18 <aquaphone> Not sure it works that way 08:02:22 <elky> aquaphone, the bot should be telling you what it's doing in a PM 08:02:24 <elky> #link http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=22nd+Mahara+Developer+Meeting&iso=20121121T20 08:02:27 <elky> just to be shure 08:02:30 <elky> sure* 08:02:37 <aquaphone> Elky never has 08:02:47 <anitsirk> neither for me 08:02:50 <aquaphone> #topic Any other business 08:02:53 <elky> i must be thinking of a different meeting bot then 08:03:00 <anitsirk> nothing from me 08:03:08 <anzeljg> nothing from me 08:03:14 <elky> nor me 08:03:29 <elky> woot, 30 minutes! 08:03:41 <aquaphone> Batman is available for twig help 08:03:52 <aquaphone> Thats it from me 08:04:05 <aquaphone> Maybe more next meeting 08:04:07 <elky> by batman he means chris t 08:04:25 <aquaphone> #endmeeting